“using violence against nazis may provide temporary safety but in the end you alienate most people with violence and you need lots of allies to stop fascism in the long term”

Oh really? Just who exactly does violence alienate? Could it be that you are prioritizing the feelings of middle class white people who don’t experience the unsafety that nazis create? 

In my experience most people who are actually part of a group targetted by nazis want one thing when nazis appear: to be safe. 

And moral speeches really don’t win them over to whichever group you are because moral speeches do not make them any safer. But getting rid of the nazis and creating that safety does.