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Common neonazi symbols, an incomplete list. Correction: The sign listed as Pegida is not commonly used by Pegida but is used by the northwest Europe based neonazi Identity Movement.
Especially relevant for people moving within the Black Metal-Scene
Yes yes yes yes yes, while there are nazi’s in other music genres, they’re huge in metal and actually get booked at non-political metal festivals like it’s no big deal! Disgusting shit. Also keep an eye on:
- Album titles and band names that have two words both starting with the letter S.
- Nazi number symbolism (18 means Adolh Hitler, 88 means Heil Hitler, 14 means a lot of bullshit and the three get mixed together to make numbers like 1488, 8814 etc)
- Songs with nazi phrases like ‘blood and honour’, ‘ blood and soil’, ‘
My Honor Is Loyalty’
- References to German military units. If a band is called Panzerdivision… yeah…
There’s more but these are some obvious starting points to spotting nazi metal.
it’s really very important for anyone reblogging this list to pay particular attention to the addendum at the end of this. a great deal of these symbols exist outside of nazism and operate independently of that bullshit. it’s really important for people to observe carefully before making your conclusions.
Yeah, an important addendum is that the triskel and Celtic cross do have other, very much non-Nazi associations! As a matter of fact, the swastika itself, the most recognizable symbol, used to mean sun/peace in different religions (Slavic, some South Asian) when turned by 45° from the Nazi one… centuries, millennia before Hitler was a thing.
I’m not sure about the runes, but I’d hazard a guess they have a meaning outside what Nazis used them for.
Basically, use reason, and CONTEXT CLUES. In a book about ancient Slavic mythology, a triskel is not going to be talking about Nazis.
Also, everything queeranarchism said in their second comment is on point. Don’t overlook the numbers! They’re commonly used clues that people seldom notice.
TL;DR be smart about punching people until you know for sure they’re a Nazi. Once you do, wear brass knuckles.
Nah don’t punch Nazis, because it’s still assault. Just ignore them and make them feel unimportant.
I swear to god this works infinitely better because if they aren’t fought physically, all they can do is say mean things about their enemy. They don’t have reason to fight back until you punch them.That’d be a good point, until you realize that that’s what Appeasement was in the 1930s. And that’s why Britain and England weren’t ready to help Poland in 1939. Despite what Western media tells you, Poland DID have a strategy for if (when) Germany attacked, but it relied on our allies way more than it should’ve. The West, on the other hand, decided not to start a fight because the warmongers might settle down if you give them what they want. Spoiler alert: they didn’t.
K but we’re talking about Neo Nazis at metal concerts
Ignoring neonazis generally doesn’t make them go away through.
Neonazis are always looking for places where their despicable ideas are acceptable so they can spread them from there.
They don’t care if you ignore them, they’re interested in the frustrated racist kid standing next to you, and they’ll whisper in his ears about how anti-racists are the left wing thought police until that kid believes that nazis are somehow warriors for freedom instead of genocide.
They didn’t come to Metal at random, they chose this genre because it has an “everything goes” and “shocking is good” mentality. They deliberately abused that mentality to create a platform to distribute their ideas. They’re counting on Metal fans to ignore them, to not protest when a big festival books a nazi band or a good metal store sells nazi cd’s, to shrug when they shout ‘Sieg Heil’ on stage. This has allowed them to thrive within this subculture and it’s why Metal is now the biggest genre in nazi music.
Neonazis had a quite different experience in punk, where they also tried to establish space. Punkers fought back against nazi punks from day one, through physical violence and by banning bands that had a racist band member from performing or selling their cds at punk venues. As a result, nazi punks had no choice but to form their own little nazi punk subcultures where they couldn’t reach anyone new and couldn’t spread their message effectively.
Groups like Metalheads Against Fascism exist but they’re few and far between. In many places, nazi metal bands can perform uninterrupted. That’s why they’re still here. And metal will continue to be popular as a genre for nazi music until Metal fans decide that they’re gonna do what it takes to kick nazis out of their spaces.
QueerAnarchism 