braidsandbruisedknees:

alyesque:

Masculinity is not the problem, the class domination of women by men is.

Butch lesbians and gnc women who you read as masculine are not the problem, men are. 

This is all incredibly obvious and a classic feminist insight, and the fact that we have strayed so far form this framework is shocking and terrifying.

I also think its imporant to point out unhealthy masculine taught traits and such though because I’ve been with many butch women/ masculine nb people who have adapted abusive behavior because it is viewed in our society as “acceptable masculine behavior” and it is a disservice to our community to allow abuse to continue to exist because you would prefer we didn’t talk about it/ you think men are the only problem

And the people who have always been the most vocal and insightful about this are…. butch women! Who *surprise surprise* live the every day reality of being gendernonconforming and the amount of violence that results in, and who also live the every day impact of the pressure to perform societies fucked up version of masculinity to have their gender recognized.

The current, identity politics infested, version of conversations about butch experiences as ‘masculine privilege’ is a massive failure. Being gendernonconforming doesn’t come with privilege and it is not something that genderconforming people can provide hot new insights on. Give me the complex understanding of butch experiences from the mouths of the butches that live it.