Masculinity is not the problem, the class domination of women by men is.
Butch lesbians and gnc women who you read as masculine are not the problem, men are.
This is all incredibly obvious and a classic feminist insight, and the fact that we have strayed so far form this framework is shocking and terrifying.
I also think its imporant to point out unhealthy masculine taught traits and such though because I’ve been with many butch women/ masculine nb people who have adapted abusive behavior because it is viewed in our society as “acceptable masculine behavior” and it is a disservice to our community to allow abuse to continue to exist because you would prefer we didn’t talk about it/ you think men are the only problem
And the people who have always been the most vocal and insightful about this are…. butch women! Who *surprise surprise* live the every day reality of being gendernonconforming and the amount of violence that results in, and who also live the every day impact of the pressure to perform societies fucked up version of masculinity to have their gender recognized.
The current, identity politics infested, version of conversations about butch experiences as ‘masculine privilege’ is a massive failure. Being gendernonconforming doesn’t come with privilege and it is not something that genderconforming people can provide hot new insights on. Give me the complex understanding of butch experiences from the mouths of the butches that live it.
The new framework being pushed is, in my opinion, a redfem created one in an attempt to rhetorically trap trans/nb people in as oppressors and create an offense against their identities just for existing.
But when you actually get down to it, the problem overwhelmingly is still the patriarchy and toxic hyper masculine standards, which is upheld and enforced by cis men.
Sounds about right. It certainly wouldn’t be the first time TERFs poored their hate into typical identity politics in order to devide and conquer & accusing population groups that face violence because of their gender of somehow having ‘male privilege’ is kind of their core thing.
